Not sure if this'll tickle anyone's fancy, but thought I'd share it anyway.

I like having all my info in one place for when I've got time (maintenance time falls at my play time mostly) to look over them and see where to improve each class from there. And that's why I chose to throw this thing together. I'm yet to add any calculations or additional pages for gear equipped.

Feel free to mess with this as you wish, and at the same time any advice relating to my characters would be appreciated. =)

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bz6KhTDFHEvOTS1OVWhZVU5xUXM/edit?usp=sharing (.xls format)

Interesting. What's up w/ your DH having more Vitality than any of your other heroes? & why is his Critical Hit Chance sooo low too? Just curious.. :-)

Regarding my DH I think I was compensating for lack of resistances. I also think it was old gear from my monk. Now that you mention it I'm sure cutting back on vit. I could easily increase crit. hit chance.

Thanks for pointing that out. I'm yet to rework all my sc characters, besides my wiz, after completing Inferno.

Next step is a build that can tackle MP10 all acts solo. Money, money, money.

Posted by EnzyOne at 05/02/2013 04:06 AM

Regarding my DH I think I was compensating for lack of resistances. I also think it was old gear from my monk. Now that you mention it I'm sure cutting back on vit. I could easily increase crit. hit chance.

Thanks for pointing that out. I'm yet to rework all my sc characters, besides my wiz, after completing Inferno.

Next step is a build that can tackle MP10 all acts solo. Money, money, money.

No problem, glad it helped a little! :-)

Yah, tackling MP10 on solo as a DH thus far seems like an unattainable goal. The best I think I've managed so far is only by switching to a tank/grenade build, & even then it's only about MP6 or 7 (& I still die a fair amount). If you ever get to that stage where MP10 is survivable, would love to see how you did it. :-)

Posted by eastdragon42 at 05/02/2013 06:14 AM

Yah, tackling MP10 on solo as a DH thus far seems like an unattainable goal. The best I think I've managed so far is only by switching to a tank/grenade build, & even then it's only about MP6 or 7 (& I still die a fair amount). If you ever get to that stage where MP10 is survivable, would love to see how you did it. :-)

Do you mean survival at all or efficient farming? It isn't too difficult to make a grenade tank DH that can survive MP10. It's another matter entirely building one that can make a Key run in under an hour (at least).

@eastdragon42 Focusing on a farming wizard for now, working up MP levels, had enough of the DH after working 1 thru to 60 in HC.

Posted by ecocd at 05/02/2013 07:13 AM

Do you mean survival at all or efficient farming? It isn't too difficult to make a grenade tank DH that can survive MP10. It's another matter entirely building one that can make a Key run in under an hour (at least).

Surviving w/o incurring huge repair costs cause I keep dying, I guess... :-0 Or maybe I'm just doing something wrong w/ my grenade build...?

@eastdragon You might be putting a higher priority on dps than ehp. I run my as a tank through and through. If I can get my display dps to 40k, that's really good. I think I was running 600 AR, 3800+ Armor around 60k life, 800 LoH and CC just over 50% and around 2.5 aps. There were two weapons I used. My standard weapon was a high dps 10-11% IAS Calamity which took care of pretty much all the standard white mobs. When I was facing enemies that run away, I would switch to a high Freeze/dps Azurewrath which would freeze them about 6% of the time from the Cluster Grenades. The Act 1 Keywarden is a true PitA and took a solid 20 minutes to kill with me never getting even remotely close to dying. A good Buriza on my Scoundrel helped a lot. I alternated between Shadow Power - Blood Moon and Gloom since I could never decide which was better. Try Smokescreen if you haven't since it worked wonders given how much life regen one can get in 1.5 seconds.

MP10 was just a novelty in the end. Even MP9 was substantially more tolerable and dropping to MP7 to get more dps was always substantially better for Key farming with my DH (of course any halfway decent Barb is still the best for everything).

@ecocd: Thanks for the feedback. It's been awhile since I played my DH tank build, which I usually did in my Legacy Natalya's set (though only up to about MP6 or 7), but it's nice to have some reference points on what actually works. Have always been big on resistances & have slowly been accumulating gear w/ maximum Resist All in the event I want to try & revisit MP10 again. When I switch out my belt, pants, amulet, & offhand, I have nine pieces of +80 Resist All gear to push my resistances into the 900~1,000 range. ;-) At that point my Armor would be at 6427, Life is at 43,976 hp, & DPS is at 55,036.4. This is w/ a Stormshield in my offhand btw, as opposed to my DML (I wonder if that trade off in protection is worth the huge loss in DPS...? The Stormshield has fairly good stats, including armor 1204, +32% chance to block, +186 str, +88 int, +94 vit, +80 RA, +9% chance to block, 6% reduced damage from melee attacks, 7% reduced damage from elite attacks). I believe my CC and Attack Speed would be similar to yours too.

The main issue that would be lacking though is LoH... I used to have LoH on various gear, as well as in dual crossbows back in the day when I was experimenting w/ DH tank, but at the current stage, I'm now at zero LoH, including when I switch out my regular gear for my AR gear. So the question now becomes--is Gloom sufficient to provide enough life regeneration to sustain me on MP10...? Or should I stick a Radiant Star Amethyst in my Calamity to get the LoH from there (& would +600 LoH be sufficient?)? Or I could switch back to one of my rare socketed LoH 1h xbows for more LoH... btw, the above 55,036.4 DPS I was quoting was for an empty-socketed Calamity, so it's definitely viable to socket such a gem in there. Or should I switch to an Azurewrath as well? (Have one in my stash w/ I think a 13.6% freezing rate..)

@eastdragon42 I think it's just guess and check at this point. Since I went with LoH, DML was the way to go before it proc'd LoH more often. I couldn't say whether Blood Moon + Stormshield will be enough. It very well could. I can only say LoH woked for me and with substantially less defense on my gear. I bet either way works. I switched in Azurewrath/Stormshield only for the guys that run away.

Posted by ecocd at 05/07/2013 11:35 AM

eastdragon42 I think it's just guess and check at this point. Since I went with LoH, DML was the way to go before it proc'd LoH more often. I couldn't say whether Blood Moon + Stormshield will be enough. It very well could. I can only say LoH woked for me and with substantially less defense on my gear. I bet either way works. I switched in Azurewrath/Stormshield only for the guys that run away.

Thanks for the update & advice. Last couple of questions: I know there are variations of grenade builds for DHs, but which one(s) did you find the most successful in terms of skills? i.e., aside from grenades, what other skills/passives were you using as a grenadier? Were you using Chakram, or Cluster Arrow w/ Grenadier passive, or Spike Trap? (Or something completely different?) Did u use the Sentry for additional damage reduction & DPS? Companion? (Boar for more RA & life regeneration, or bat for more hatred?)

Thanks! & @EnzyOne, apologies for kind of hijacking your original thread...! :-0

No apologies necessary. Nothing wrong with interesting discussion, no matter where it is. =)