is movement speed REALLY important for WW spec?

I would say so. The more movement speed you have, the faster you are. The faster you are the more distance you can run in a given amount of time. The more distance you can run in a given amount of time the more tornadoes you create can create during that allotted time limit. So not exactly sure but it goes something like ~4 tornadoes with no move speed, ~5 with +12% speed, and ~6 +24% speed (i think). Not too sure about the last one but its something like that...

I've spent maybe 15m on gear and i go through act 2 easymode. I do full runs and end up with 2 inventories full of rares with at least 10-15 ilvl 63s

I have been slowly building up a good WW barb and am all the way up to Ghom with a few packs that are the death of me . I then dumb myself down and add about 130 % gold find pre-NV and just farm Act 1 with about 40 % crit hit and about 360/400 crit damage and this seems to have the best drop rate.

I have spent about 20 mill total ( some good and some bad buys) and have received some really nice stuff by trading with friends to better our characters .

Movement speed reduces the time you need to walk from 1 elite to another. It decreases the time needed to farm the full act. It is not required if you wish to go from pack to pack at your own speed.

How is attack speed important?

once you get movement speed on a Barb you'll never go without it again. makes a big difference on WW especially when there's a big gap between packs of mobs to keep Wotb up.

No really as the number of torandos is capped. It does make farming quicker.

Act 2 for me:

DPS 30k
CC - 32%
CD - 357%
HP - 31k
MF - 205%
Armor - 6.9k
AR - 650
LS - 5%

I would say I've spent around 10-15 mill and can pretty much farm a3 on the regular.

Movement speed is a bonus if you can get it IMO. Not necessary for the build to succeed but definitely great to have.

I personally don't have any as its quite expensive, ontop of your regular stats you look for on boots.

Posted by j2kim at 09/06/2012 11:02 AM

I would say I've spent around 10-15 mill and can pretty much farm a3 on the regular.

Movement speed is a bonus if you can get it IMO. Not necessary for the build to succeed but definitely great to have.

I personally don't have any as its quite expensive, ontop of your regular stats you look for on boots.

I agree . If you have ms it's actually a bonus not a requirement .
I don't even use ms for my ww barb . What's important is the CC and CD to maintain your fury and speed to clear the mobs .
To be ultra efficient , CC needs to be at least 45 - 50% .

My Spec: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#ahURkP!ZeY!YZZYcc

I'm using superstition as a result of my resists being lower than i would prefer.

Here is a general rundown of how i gear myself

WEAPONS:

MH = high damage, socket, crit damage
OH = stats (str/vit), ias is nice, crit damage, socket, LL or LoH


ARMOR:

HELM: Str/Vit/AR/Crit Chance and a socket if you can afford
SHOULDERS: Str/Vit/AR pretty much. Anything else is a treat. High str preferably, 230+
GLOVES: Str/Vit/AR/Crit%/CritDMG/IAS; trifecta all duh way, even if you have to sacrifice some resists here.
PANTS: Str/Vit/AR/2 Sockets; A good alternative to this is strength blackthorne's pants.
BOOTS: Str/Vit/AR/Movement Speed IMPORTANT
BRACERS: Str/Vit/AR/Crit%
AMMY/NECK/RINGS: Go for stats you can't get on armor, such as crit chance, crit dmg, attack speed, and life on hit. So basically to stay cheaper, go for str/vit/crit%/critDMG on neck,, same with rings but w/o vit. Basically different two-stat combos among the good modifier stats.
BELT: Str/Vit/AR/Life Steal 2.80%+ Very nice to have this LL.


Here is my armory link: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Reavus-1886/hero/5153496

Although I too am concerned about this build getting nerfed, I've found that a really good way to get cheaper weapons is to go for life steal instead of LoH. Get LoH on your ammy because it can spawn pretty high, and then life steal on one weapon and a belt and you're set.

You can get much higher dps weapons this way, and with more dps the lifesteal is more effective.

Posted by bakajames at 09/05/2012 01:57 AM

How is attack speed important?

Attack speed, coupled with a high crit chance, is important in keeping your fury up with Battle Rage and Into the Fray (Crits have a chance to generate 15 fury). It helps with survivability (LoH, and LL).

Alright I'm back after a long while and I've gotten A3 farming down pretty much perfectly with my better gear and the inferno nerfs. to answer doraemon80's question, yes move speed is very important for WW barbs as a move speed of +10 or more will grant a fifth tornado.

Not to mention it speeds up the travel time across the map

in addition to what erik4471 said, fast move speed also allows you to move quickly between mobs, essential in keeping your wrath of the berserker up.

for those of you concerned about this build getting nerfed and are unsure whether or not to invest in gear, i personally wouldn't worry too much. good gear for a wwbarb is still good gear for a barbarian. granted, you might have to make some adjustments in the future, but you're playing the game today, so build for today. you can never know what blizzard will do tomorrow. i'm glad i made the jump weeks ago when people were equally concerned about a nerf. the only adjustment i made since then was swapping out overpower for bash, as well as a few pieces of reasonably priced gear.

I was seriously a "movement speed is a requirement" naysayer for a long time pre 1.0.4. I recently went from 0% increased MS to 24% + sprint (picked up new boots + a pair of new lacuni's) and it has seriously blown my mind. I have no issues keeping my WotB up constantly now, and my a3 farm times have decreased astronomically (probably almost half the time it took me previously). I can't believe I was foolish enough to ignore it for so long, but I'm glad I've hopped on the bandwagon.

Posted by Yasiru at 08/01/2012 07:57 PM

Has anyone tried a whirlwind build with a two hander yet? Could it be effective??

It is doable, the only problem being is that WW barbs tend to rely on the speed of 1h for both quick fury gain outside of WW and for the LoH proc. I would say if you're going to do it, you're going to want to have really high LoH on the weap and some atk spd% in order to counter the amount you would get from Dual wielding.

Posted by jwynne at 09/15/2012 02:42 PM

I was seriously a "movement speed is a requirement" naysayer for a long time pre 1.0.4. I recently went from 0% increased MS to 24% + sprint (picked up new boots + a pair of new lacuni's) and it has seriously blown my mind. I have no issues keeping my WotB up constantly now, and my a3 farm times have decreased astronomically (probably almost half the time it took me previously). I can't believe I was foolish enough to ignore it for so long, but I'm glad I've hopped on the bandwagon.

Oh really? I have 0% MS and don't thing the runs are too long, but after this I might have to try out the MS boosts. Where do you get the MS from? Well boots and what else?

I've spent about 15 mil right now and i have some trouble killing some packs.

I've spent maye 1-2 million and I can almost farm act 3 efficiently. I can farm act 2 quite easily.

Posted by Reemir at 09/15/2012 03:08 PM

Posted by jwynne at 09/15/2012 02:42 PM

I was seriously a "movement speed is a requirement" naysayer for a long time pre 1.0.4. I recently went from 0% increased MS to 24% + sprint (picked up new boots + a pair of new lacuni's) and it has seriously blown my mind. I have no issues keeping my WotB up constantly now, and my a3 farm times have decreased astronomically (probably almost half the time it took me previously). I can't believe I was foolish enough to ignore it for so long, but I'm glad I've hopped on the bandwagon.

Oh really? I have 0% MS and don't thing the runs are too long, but after this I might have to try out the MS boosts. Where do you get the MS from? Well boots and what else?

There are items whereby it adds MS . Like Tyrael's might , Lacuni Prowlers and the Boots . That's already 36% MS if you get all three . I am not sure if there's a cap to MS .
As mentioned , MS is not a requirement for WW barbs . It's a boost if you have it . I don't run with MS but I don't have any problems maintaining my WOTB .