MP3 Gear and Price Check

Posted by Member mantice on 1/7/13 06:53 AM #1
Posts: 75

How much Gold would it take to gear a WD to roll MP3 no problem efficiently?

Also what gear is necessary and whats the preferred build to do so ?

My doctor was the first class i played at launch and now i want to get back into it.
Posted by Member Khan on 1/7/13 06:56 AM #2
Posts: 1195

Good question. I'd like to know answer to the build part.
Posted by Member mantice on 1/7/13 05:22 PM #3
Posts: 75

Well i spent around 30m on my witch doctor just today and i seem to be doing alright mp3. Still need more testing.
Posted by Member briangp on 1/7/13 09:24 PM #4
Posts: 85

Look at my WD, it rolls MP3 like a backhoe in a sandbox. Focus on crit chance and crit damage. stay away from IAS if you're going to use bears. My crit is mid 40's with 480% crit dmg. Bears are like steam rollers. The tough part is keeping the mana supply running. If you buff up with Soul Harvest and Gruesome Feast though the numbers are unreal. My DPS shows just under 300k when buffed. My build is a little off right now because I've donated some stuff to my CM wiz, but it still works. Only thing I'm missing is a good Zunis helm which is NOT CHEAP whatsoever.

Packs die in about 3 seconds.

I can't remember how much I ultimately spent, it was probably more than 30m tho.

http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/Screenshot270.jpg
Posted by Member ninjax on 1/8/13 04:50 AM #5
Posts: 600

I've been looking into a number of builds over the last couple of days. Some really interesting ones!

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Exploding Dogs on MP10 (cheers @gabhh for link)
This works really well.. but I think need to be really geared with zombie dog cooldown items but seems insanely powerful. Apparently he was using a white 20% IAS 1h for the vid. I'd love to try this but don't think it's affordable.
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Acid Rain Spammer
Amazing farming and speed on low MP.
This is what I'm doing, very cheap to gear and no reason why it can't do higher MP's once you gear up. Going to try throwing in a freezing follower to see how this helps when bumping MP's up.
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Freeze Doctor (cheers @gnawol for link)
Looks great for Ubers.
As per the vid can be done on the cheap, requires a few freeze proc items and very high APS
Posted by Member NightCrawler9 on 1/8/13 09:48 AM #6
Posts: 444

@briangp I would suggest you get a good Zuni off hand instead of a helm. It'll be much more cost efficient. You'll get the 20 mana regen still and it'll open up a spot to switch to a good Visage of Giyua which will give you a good chunk more mana regen. You should then have more then 100 mana regen per second, which is awesome when running Grave Injustice and Gruesome Feast. Also, you should replace you Sun Keeper with a good knife, but I'm assuming it's for farming purposes, so it's not that big of a deal haha.

@ninjax Yeah, the zer cooldown set up is ridiculously expensive to get. I thought I was going to go for it, but it's very similar to a CM wizard where you just spam your buttons and I really didn't want another character to do that haha.
Posted by Member briangp on 1/8/13 04:56 PM #7
Posts: 85

Posted by NightCrawler9 at 01/08/2013 09:48 AM

@briangp I would suggest you get a good Zuni off hand instead of a helm. It'll be much more cost efficient. You'll get the 20 mana regen still and it'll open up a spot to switch to a good Visage of Giyua which will give you a good chunk more mana regen. You should then have more then 100 mana regen per second, which is awesome when running Grave Injustice and Gruesome Feast. Also, you should replace you Sun Keeper with a good knife, but I'm assuming it's for farming purposes, so it's not that big of a deal haha.
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You find me items that I can do that and keep my damage up and I'll consider. Zunimassa's offhand sucks major IMO. Finding a good one is like a needle in the haystack and I doubt its affordable. My sunkeeper does better damage than ANY knife. You may find a Manujamas that could keep up with it, but with the 40% MF it outweighs it. I don't need the mana regen THAT bad. Only time I feel I need it is on higher MPs, but if I run low, firebomb and splinters does me pretty good and never have to worry about mana with them. Everything else dies in a bear spam. My bears average 800k per hit.
Posted by Member NightCrawler9 on 1/8/13 05:42 PM #8
Posts: 444

Calm down there man, just giving you some suggestions haha.

Zuni mojos I think can be best in slot, at least for ubers and high monster powers. Your serpent is a very good one though so getting a String of Skulls to cover it would be tough. What I meant for cost efficient was that Zuni helms are incredibly overpriced (a good one at least), and probably would cost less to get a pretty good Zuni mojo and a pretty good Visage of Giyua combined for cheaper I think (could be wrong). I think it's a better option because you're getting more stats on top of would you already have, like mana regen. And although you say it's not needed more mana regen is never a bad thing)

Like I said, the Sunkeeper and it's MF is probably what you use for farming or whatever so it's not that big of a problem. But a good black weapon knife would be better than a sun keeper but it'd be hard to find one because the market for them is kind of goofy right now. The thing that would make a knife better though is if it's a black weapon you'd get more damage out of it because of 8% poison damage on your Zuni boots (same idea if you ever end up going the route of a Tals amulet). But the thing that makes a rare knife is you can get life steal on it too which is a really good thing for a WD to have, at least for ubers. Of course a Sun Keeper could roll lifesteal, but then you wouldn't be able to roll anything other than a socket which is would you probably would want along with it. On a rare you can get int, crit damage, socket, life steal and of course more mana regen. Maybe some vit as well, not sure though. High dps black damage ones of t hose kinds of knives are really expensive but IMO they're what's best in slot for a WD.
Posted by Member douvinsky on 1/8/13 06:20 PM #9
Posts: 1445

Posted by ninjax at 01/08/2013 04:50 AM

I've been looking into a number of builds over the last couple of days. Some really interesting ones!

**
Exploding Dogs on MP10 (cheers @gabhh for link)
This works really well.. but I think need to be really geared with zombie dog cooldown items but seems insanely powerful. Apparently he was using a white 20% IAS 1h for the vid. I'd love to try this but don't think it's affordable.
**
Acid Rain Spammer
Amazing farming and speed on low MP.
This is what I'm doing, very cheap to gear and no reason why it can't do higher MP's once you gear up. Going to try throwing in a freezing follower to see how this helps when bumping MP's up.
**
Freeze Doctor (cheers @gnawol for link)
Looks great for Ubers.
As per the vid can be done on the cheap, requires a few freeze proc items and very high APS


Nice!
Posted by Member mantice on 1/8/13 07:25 PM #10
Posts: 75

@NightCrawler9 what would you recommend my next upgrade be ?
Posted by Member NightCrawler9 on 1/8/13 07:48 PM #11
Posts: 444

Posted by mantice at 01/08/2013 07:25 PM

@NightCrawler9 what would you recommend my next upgrade be ?


Profile unavailable! :P
Posted by Member mantice on 1/8/13 08:15 PM #12
Posts: 75

honeymonkey#1666
Posted by Member NightCrawler9 on 1/8/13 08:39 PM #13
Posts: 444

It doesn't give me any profile for me...even checked Diabloprogress. Can you just post a link to your WD's profile?
Posted by Member Stukthrtl on 1/8/13 08:43 PM #14
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@mantice: Just missing the K in your profile link ;)
Posted by Member NightCrawler9 on 1/8/13 08:46 PM #15
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Posted by Stukthrtl at 01/08/2013 08:43 PM

@mantice: Just missing the K in your profile link ;)


Oooooohhhhhh...
Posted by Member NightCrawler9 on 1/8/13 09:21 PM #16
Posts: 444

Okay @mantice

First off, I'm going to tell you that attack speed is not something a witch doctor wants pretty much ever. Once you get your WD's gear pretty much perfect without it, then you can go for gear with attack speed to improve further.

With that said, I think first you should get a Zuni Pox to replace your rare ring. Try to get one with average damage and either hit int and vit or a socket. You'll lose some resistances and crit chance, but it'll be okay you'll gain them back.

You'll gain then back by replacing your Zuni helm with a Visage of Giyua with crit chance. You'll actually gain more resists than what you originally had when replacing your ring and helm because Zuni pox has 60 all resists or so and Giyua always has 70 or so all resists. You'll also gain back the crit chance you have on your rare ring and you'll still have the mana regen on the helm. You will lose the attack speed but oh well. What is kind of lam is you'll lose some life, so I think a Zuni Pox with vit will be the best choice, althought might be a bit spendy. Not entirely sure.

Weapon is okay, but try to get one like that as a black weapon (non-elemental; yours is poison) and without attack speed. Maybe try to add on vitality or crit damage (ideally) but crit damage will bump the price quite a bit.

I'd try getting a Zuni chest with more vit. Like 150 of it.

Get some gloves like yours but without attack speed. Then you can get one with vit added and possibly more crit chance and damage. might have to sacrifice some int but that's not too big of a deal.

Mara's you should replace with either a rare amulet with int, vit (maybe), average damage and crit chance and damage or a Tals amulet with average damage, high int and vit. A crit chance Tals is the ideal piece, but those are expensive.

Zuni mojo is okay, but you'll eventually want to get one like that with crit chance. Also if you're mostly farming you might ant to think about getting a Thing of the Deep. The 20 pick up radius is really good, and it's a freakin frog!

Also, when I say average damage, I mean like 30 or so or more of it. 9 average damage is pretty much pointless.

Any other questions, just let me know!
Posted by Member mantice on 1/9/13 06:43 AM #17
Posts: 75

Thanks man ill start the improvements once i get some more gold :)

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