Finally hit 60 with 2 of my other chars. Looking to see what needs upgraded. Also, if anyone has anything that could help me with said gearing up would be nice too. free is definitely welcomed, but not expected. Have under 20m so be gentle :)

Add me Methrin#1631 if you want a free stormcrow.

Awesome!. I'll add you then can hit you up after work. Thanks!!

20m is quite a lot IMHO

a guy on reddit claims he can farm on mp9, but i kinda doubt it
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There is no way that guy can farm mp9 with that gear. Unless he defines "farming" as dying every 2 minutes and skipping elite packs...

@khan, i agree...

off topic question, when sources have min/max dmg, how much do those stats contribute to your dps? I'm looking at Chantado source, and some are like 30-89 dmg, while some go to 300... do those numbers make much of a difference? or should i only be looking at ias, +int, cc, etc...

I want to know too.

But,you guys have anything good i could use? :)

The base source damage can make a HUGE difference in your overall DPS. In general, you want to try and get 200+ average damage if possible.

You can always use a DPS calculator to see the exact change before buying. I personally use the free Gear Guru app. You can also just link an item from the AH into chat, then enter a game, and you should then see the normal item comparison with +/- life/dps/protection. I'm not sure if you have to have your inventory open to see the comparison.

@euggie If you want an example of orb damage, you can take a look at my wizard. I'm using a Tal's orb with 93-201 damage on it and it provides 20K of my 58K or so dps (or 25K of my 71K dps I have now; profile haven't update the new weapon I got). I'd say if you're in the market for a Chantodo's source try aiming for around 200 damage. Anything above will be obviously better but probably really expensive.

Posted by sabin at 10/31/2012 03:45 PM

The base source damage can make a HUGE difference in your overall DPS. In general, you want to try and get 200+ average damage if possible.

You can always use a DPS calculator to see the exact change before buying. I personally use the free Gear Guru app. You can also just link an item from the AH into chat, then enter a game, and you should then see the normal item comparison with +/- life/dps/protection. I'm not sure if you have to have your inventory open to see the comparison.

I tried using this function today and it seems to only capture a comparison of your mainhand wep. At least thats what I figured was going on when I tried to that for the first time today

@Baldy that's a really good point. I've never used the function myself, but in general the in game comparison sometimes has issues factoring in off hand weapons or shields.

@euggie @Stukthrtl I played around with the gear app, starting out with 35.5k dps, and a source with 207 average damage:

If I increase damage, I get 41.4 DPS per point of average damage.
+50 avg dam increases 2,070 DPS.
+100 avg dam increases 4,140 DPS.

On the other hand, increasing my INT by 100 gives 2k more DPS. In my case 50 avg dam is equivalent to 100 INT from a damage standpoint.

Obviously the DPS per point of damage are affected by your int, crit, ias, etc. It's even more important if you're using a triumverate, since as I understand it, gear DPS counts as weapon black damage does.

All good answers. You beat me to it. Basically, that damage number (100 - 320 as an example) is similar to the damage number under the larger number of your weapon. So you basically add that number to your wand's average dps. If its a black damage weapon and you're using a triumverate, you add the 3 various damage percentages also (5% fire, 5% lightning, 5% arcane/on perfectly rolled triumverates, you get 18% extra damage on a black weapon).

thanks for your feedback guys... i found this site d3up.com and was wondering if anyone else uses it?
you need to use a client app, but i'm always weary of these types of client programs...

Posted by Khan at 10/31/2012 05:33 PM

All good answers. You beat me to it. Basically, that damage number (100 - 320 as an example) is similar to the damage number under the larger number of your weapon. So you basically add that number to your wand's average dps. If its a black damage weapon and you're using a triumverate, you add the 3 various damage percentages also (5% fire, 5% lightning, 5% arcane/on perfectly rolled triumverates, you get 18% extra damage on a black weapon).

thanks @khan... question: i keep reading the term "black weapon" what does this mean?

so if weapon does 1000 dps, and source does 100-200, then its 1200dps?

@euggie Black weapons are weapons with no elemental affixes. You'll notice some (most? I don't know) weapons have X Fire damage or X Lightning damage while others just have damage. Black weapons are those without the X elemental damage. If a weapon does 1000dps, look under the large number to see the damage range. Likely it will say 800 - 960 or similar. Add the 100-200 to that number and you get your average dps for the weapon.

@khan ooooooooooooooooooooh! got it sir.. thanks!

Oh, and ping me in game if you guys want a non-legacy storm crow. I've got a bunch. Non-socket and non-crit chance but better than the legacy versions.

Posted by shniggies at 10/31/2012 05:48 PM

thanks for your feedback guys... i found this site d3up.com and was wondering if anyone else uses it?
you need to use a client app, but i'm always weary of these types of client programs...

I've heard a lot of people say that the gear calculator works well, but I've never bothered with it myself. I prefer the app on my phone, because clearly this is the kind of information you need to have on the go...

FYI, I know the Butcher's Sickle can have decent stats as a black weapon. I haven't really looked into it much so I'm not sure if there are better options. Your axe seems pretty good so I'm not sure how much room for improvement there'd be.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/the-butchers-sickle

I use it. it's very useful. Hit F12 and it scans the item. Can correct the stats it detects if there is a problem. then can hit analyze if you have your build on the site and compares stat/dps/ehp increases or decreases