Hardcore: Survival tips here and there

Posted by Member douvinsky on 4/19/13 06:45 PM #26
Posts: 1445

Tip: Against DC/ game freeze

1) Watch the small tiny vertical bar, on the left of the big globe of mana (for WD)

- This sounds easy, but I actually knew the existence and the fucntion of this bar only a few weeks ago when I was playing with other forum members (thanks to @yoyo for pointing this to me)
- Green = good to play. Orange = better portal to town, do ID or other stuff.
- Note there would be some lag in the indicator indicating what it should indicate (enough indication? lol with my bad English choice) i.e. sometimes it could be too late if you just rely on the indicator alone. Being careful about this No. 1 enemy at hardcore, I often know when the lag is coming. Things like delay in picking up tomes from the ground.

2) When the game seems to be freezing/ lagging while you are in a battle

- Hit your survival skills/ potion (e.g. 1 for serenity if needed, q for potion) as though the battle is continuing (& you really going to need those)
- press escape
- wait

I had a close call the other day while spirit walking up the stairs at Rakkis Crossing. I just killed an elite pack, I saw some whites on top of the stairs, I wanted to spirit walk right into them and do my sexy Harvest. So I spirit walked up the stairs and suddenly the screen just freeze. Nothing moves or react (even the escape button).

I was going to give up and do a RIP thread, but after the few seconds the call-out menu when the escape is pressed, was there, right in the middle in the screen. At the same time, I also see a new blue elite packs at the bottom left of my screen charging towards my direction. I couldn't see them coming, they just popped up from off the screen.

My guess is that the game failed to load new battle smoothly, when I just finished a battle and "walk too fast" into a new battle. I was glad that I hit the escape button (once, don't over do any key actions to avoid crashing your own PC!), else I could have taken a few more hits before I was able to react.



Posted by Member yoyo on 5/12/13 05:31 PM #27
Posts: 191

HC tip: Don't do Fields of Misery as part of your run or include parts that involve those effing bulls that can charge you from off the screen. Ran into a Champion pack and one nailed me from off screen which knocked my health down to almost half. Once I noticed them I popped a potion and moved myself out of the line of site of the next closest one (running into a pack of trash as it were) and the bull charged and hit me (according to the graphic eventhough I was at least 7 yards away) which popped my Near Death Experience. At that point (besides pissing myself a little bit) I ran like a little bitch to an area where I recently cleared and ported out. In summary: Bulls and Fallen Maniacs are not worth dealing with IMO...
Posted by Member douvinsky on 5/13/13 02:00 AM #28
Posts: 1445

Posted by yoyo at 05/12/2013 05:31 PM

HC tip: Don't do Fields of Misery as part of your run or include parts that involve those effing bulls that can charge you from off the screen. Ran into a Champion pack and one nailed me from off screen which knocked my health down to almost half. Once I noticed them I popped a potion and moved myself out of the line of site of the next closest one (running into a pack of trash as it were) and the bull charged and hit me (according to the graphic eventhough I was at least 7 yards away) which popped my Near Death Experience. At that point (besides [filtered]ing myself a little bit) I ran like a little [filtered] to an area where I recently cleared and ported out. In summary: Bulls and Fallen Maniacs are not worth dealing with IMO...


I will still do Fields though.........the XP and the KW too good to pass on!

Definitely have to watch out for those beasts. If I ever need to pop serenity, I will sort of kite them backwards just in case I need another serenity with cooldown done.
Posted by Member douvinsky on 5/29/13 10:22 PM #29
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Tip: Banner carefully

This is particularly relevant at the current Patch 1.08, where players are doing co-op mostly. I am 100% on co-op in this patch.

So, you might be eager to click the banner and portal to the battlefield immediately. However, if you just enter into a game, or have been astray in the town for too long, you might want to think or act carefully before you simply click on a banner.

True story happened last night. A Wizard who was on my friend list came online, as my monk and another Wizard was clearing the Field at MP2. I immediately sent an invite to him while still punching all the trees. He joined. He must have clicked one of our banners. Then the game said he was slain!

He must have lag bad while entering into our game & landed on top of those poison pools left by the trees, and you know if our harddisk is not terribly good we will experience this high lag while the game is loading in the first couple of minutes.

Your choices of banner:

1. When it shows that the player is fighting an elite:
- You might want to NOT click in case you land right on top of fire/ forzen/ walls with disco lights all around you

2. When it shows that the player is in combat:
- Calculate the risks. Is it at the Field where you could possibly land into the path of Savage Beast + Trees combo?

3. When it shows that the player is chilling
- Probably safe to banner

In all of the cases above, it would probably be wise to ask - "Is it safe to banner?" and someone might just tell you to banner on him, safely!
Posted by Member zerokewl on 5/30/13 07:12 PM #30
Posts: 816

Wow. lvling my monk I say the first death of another toon. he was a 52 wiz. I felt bad.
Posted by Member douvinsky on 5/30/13 07:24 PM #31
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Tip: Beware of friendly fire

Act 2 KW

When he spins I think he reflect projectiles, AND also Bell from monks. Confirmed in official bnet forum and I was advised by my mentor P100 Bell Monk.

So, becareful if you are a DH or Monk, or if you have them in your co-op group! Don't be quiet about it when you are in Act 2, let them know, so that they don't get you killed.
Posted by Member douvinsky on 6/9/13 01:19 AM #32
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Tip: Town is not 100% safe

This is particularly relevant at the current Patch 1.08, where players are doing co-op mostly. I am 100% on co-op in this patch.

In Act 1, it is known that player can intentionally lead mobs into the town, pass the gate and kill unwary party member(s) who appear to be AFK even just for a couple of minutes.

Safest is to go into the Inn, if you really want to go AFK. As usual, practise courtesy and let others know you will be AFK and why, for how long, and if really long, leave the game.
Posted by Member Bort on 6/13/13 03:47 AM #33
Posts: 551

I'm assuming they lead them in from the eastern gate. Because the western gate "portal" was implemented to counter this exact problem.

On original release people pulled mobs in through there.
Posted by Member Bort on 6/17/13 02:08 PM #34
Posts: 551

Tip: Just because you are in public co-op don't think that you are safe from DC.

Was in a game today where we didn't notice some guy falling behind... and next moment he is dead. I suspect from DC. But the point I want to make is that the other 2 guys in the game didn't even blink. They just ran on as if nothing happened. I felt like crap for letting the guy die.

So... in public co-op you are pretty much still on your own.
Posted by Member Grumpy on 6/19/13 09:59 AM #35
Posts: 33

Bort....
pretty sure I read somewhere you play on EU side, but what you described is exactly what happened to my 58 monk a couple of days ago, with 1 small difference......my screen locked/froze and I had to CTRL-ALT-DELETE out of. Figured....no big deal.....Hell level, MP0, act 3 on way to seigebreaker......had survived 5 D/C's this week.....i'll be ok.....@%$#$%$# was I wrong......dead. Well....new monk is born and though I am no where near as goddly as the ppl on this forum......i'll get to 60 eventually.

Grumpy
Posted by Member yoyo on 6/19/13 05:19 PM #36
Posts: 191

@grumpy

I'm one of many hc players here on Diablo Hub. Feel free to add me. You will find there is a great group of hc players on this site. I will admit the 5 dc's in a week scares me a little bit though... O_o lol
Posted by Member douvinsky on 6/19/13 08:14 PM #37
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Posted by Bort at 06/17/2013 02:08 PM

Tip: Just because you are in public co-op don't think that you are safe from DC.

Was in a game today where we didn't notice some guy falling behind... and next moment he is dead. I suspect from DC. But the point I want to make is that the other 2 guys in the game didn't even blink. They just ran on as if nothing happened. I felt like crap for letting the guy die.

So... in public co-op you are pretty much still on your own.


I was actually in an arranged co-op, with GreatMaple, a P100 barb who brought me to my first Uber at MP7. He was leveling his other barb (not sure why people do that.......just leveling a few toons of the same class), his other barb was pretty geared and we were in a low MP Act 2, I think probably 2-3 can't remember. While we were busy killing some loose mobs at the Oasis, GreatMaple ran the other way, presumably to scout for additional elites. I could see his dot moved out of my minimap. None of us followed, we were still busy...... Then suddenly I saw his HP became empty.

He rushed into an elite pack and lag out.
Posted by Member Grumpy on 6/20/13 03:59 AM #38
Posts: 33

Yoyo -
Pretty sure my Bnet tag is Grumpy#1887, but I wrote yours down and will shoot you an invite sometime today. I still firmly believe the D/C's were blizzards fault.....I had no problems until that week, and have had no problems since this weeks 12 hour maintenance (knock on wood).
My play time will be limited until July though.....going on vacation next week and the wife and I ban all electronics from going except the phone for emergency's.

~Grumpy
Posted by Member yoyo on 6/20/13 05:09 AM #39
Posts: 191

@grumpy

Cool, I'll add you and if you see me on hit me up. Play when you can, no pressure. :)
Posted by Member zerokewl on 6/20/13 05:20 AM #40
Posts: 816

Posted by yoyo at 06/20/2013 05:09 AM

@grumpy

Cool, I'll add you and if you see me on hit me up. Play when you can, no pressure. :)


Same
Posted by Member Grumpy on 6/20/13 06:05 AM #41
Posts: 33

I had the tag wrong....it's Grumpy#1889 not 1887 (most all D3 stuff is blocked at work so I couldn't look and verify.)

Sending you both friend requests now.
Posted by Member douvinsky on 6/20/13 09:01 PM #42
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Posted by Grumpy at 06/20/2013 06:05 AM

I had the tag wrong....it's Grumpy#1889 not 1887 (most all D3 stuff is blocked at work so I couldn't look and verify.)

Sending you both friend requests now.


Add me too. My timing could be a bit weird being at the other end of the globe. BTW I received an FR a few days ago without any message/ details hence I declined it, I hope that's not you else just resend with an attaching message.
Posted by Member yoyo on 6/21/13 03:11 PM #43
Posts: 191

I was power leveling a group today and one of the group was doing it naked. His though process on this was that it was a waste of gold until lvl 60. Umm needless to say he died and the other two guys who had properly geared themselves lived. Gear yourself early and often on your way to lvl 60. Life becomes much easier at that point. I would say the most important time to gear up is between Nightmare and Hell when power leveling. The last 10 levels have killed more than a few and I speak from first hand experience on this. Assuming you will be running mp10 hell, get as much vit and armor as you can with all res as a bonus.
Posted by Member douvinsky on 6/21/13 06:21 PM #44
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@yoyo

It sounds as if you were giving powerlevelling services?
Posted by Member yoyo on 6/21/13 07:16 PM #45
Posts: 191

@douvinsky

Are you implying that I'm charging people to power level? Dang Douvy I thought you knew me better than that. I would never do that just to be clear. I will admit my ulterior motive for leveling people which is to get more people interested and playing hc. I gotta be honest Douvy, I'm a little bummed out by your response.
Posted by Member douvinsky on 6/22/13 02:27 AM #46
Posts: 1445

@yoyo

Nah. I didn't imply that. I knew you wouldn't charge people for it.

Before I wrote that line down, I had completed an incohesive paragraph of why I think is the issue of running naked before 60, then I thought maybe the naked guy is your friend, ie not a friend of a friend or just some random player in the pub. Hence I decided to delete the paragraph and threw you a question instead, hoping that you could give more details of the 'power leveling' you gave, before I offended anyone close to you. I admit my question to you could be a bit blunt and seems to imply that you are charging for powerlevelling, in the midst of me driving and trying to drop a quick line before I gotta hold the wheel again.

Anyway the point is I believe you are not charging people for your powerlevelling. I meant to comment more on the naked run aspect.

On a separate note on your ulterior motive of getting more people interested in hardcore, I must say I disagree with the use of powerlevelling, if the person receiving it has not completed 60 by himself on one of his toons in hardcore. IMO it kills the fun and excitement of stepping first step in hardcore, and doesn't help in the long run if a person couldn't learn from mistakes or have the necessary experience in getting out of dangerous situations. If a person loves hardcore he will stay even he has to die a few times. Otherwise he wouldn't stay. Powerlevelling might not be a good way of showing him 'this is hardcore. Love it'. However if he has completed 60 before in hardcore, by all means get powerlevelling if he wants as long as he knows what he is doing and he knows he love hardcore.

Also I must say I am equally bummed out, if you think that I think of you that way! We definitely know each other better than that.

Lastly, ready for some runs in the early mornings? My parents are in town for a month and it looks like I am only up for runs in your morning, or Downunder's evening.
Posted by Member Grumpy on 6/22/13 05:53 AM #47
Posts: 33

@douvinsky

I'll add you Douvy, though my playtime is limited this week due to vacation starting Sunday/Monday. And no....I don't send blind friend request unless they know they are coming.

@yoyo

Thank you again for the levels you gained my monk. Left him this morning at lv 56 in act 2 hell (had to drop cain's or dieeeee)

~Grumpy
Posted by Member yoyo on 6/22/13 09:20 AM #48
Posts: 191

@douvinsky

A simple misunderstanding. Yes the guy running naked had already lost his Paragon 9 monk and didn't want to grind all those levels again. He also asked if a couple of his friends could come along for the ride which I had no problem with. Now that we have established that I'm right and your wrong, all is forgiven. JK haha :P

@grumpy

No problem. Hit me up anytime.
Posted by Member douvinsky on 6/22/13 04:10 PM #49
Posts: 1445

@yoyo

No problem.
Back to the completely naked guy. Did you have a hard time running him? A what level did he die by running naked? Completely? I seriously hope you don't have to run someone who is not willing to invest in himself again, and most likely drag the whole group by him doing so.
Posted by Member yoyo on 6/22/13 05:00 PM #50
Posts: 191

@douvinsky

The odd thing is that I though he played really well with his Paragon 9 Monk. You know, not wandering off and using skills that complimented mine. His naked toon died about level 16 in the Keep Depths. He ended up making another toon (and equipping him) after getting some grief from myself and his two buddies. I didn't have time to level them further at that time but I think he smartened up.

It was that experience that prompted me to create the post stating the obvious. Gear and re gear early and often when playing hc.

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