Expansion - Reaper of Souls officially announced!

Posted by Member nuhertz on 8/21/13 01:20 PM #26
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@Mehsiah

Exactly. I'm considering doing this. Barbs have to be the easiest to pLVL.
Posted by Member moloch154 on 8/21/13 01:27 PM #27
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Posted by Mehsiah at 08/21/2013 01:06 PM

I could easily just make all barbs, level them up, wait til expac, get my pts, delete the "alts" and be GG from the start...


This is my plan.....after I get my WD to 100. Then just figure out which class I can level the fastest and level those guys.

@nuhurtz, I made the wrong call on the no socket weapons. However, I am with you on the gems :)

As far as an economy reset, rather then just a gear reset. If they devalued gold to the point of almost worthlessness with some new monetary unit (Like @ecocd mentioned platinum) that would greatly level the playing field. I doubt they would do that though.
Posted by Member moloch154 on 8/21/13 01:32 PM #28
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@Lylirra has stated that your Paragon 'points' will be calculated on Paragon exp and not Paragon total levels.
Posted by Member mentok1982 on 8/21/13 01:32 PM #29
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Posted by Mehsiah at 08/21/2013 01:06 PM

@nuhurtz, I made the wrong call on the no socket weapons. However, I am with you on the gems :)


Wait. Do we know for a fact that enchanting won't add sockets?

I have a character full of weapons that are just begging to have sockets added.
Posted by Admin DHAdmin on 8/21/13 01:35 PM #30
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Posted by moloch154 at 08/21/2013 01:32 PM

@Lylirra has stated that your Paragon 'points' will be calculated on Paragon exp and not Paragon total levels.


Yeah, the official quote is "Your shared Paragon level will be calculated by adding up Paragon EXP across all your heroes."

That makes a lot more sense than just adding the Paragon levels together.
Posted by Admin DHAdmin on 8/21/13 01:37 PM #31
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Posted by moloch154 at 08/21/2013 01:27 PM

Posted by Mehsiah at 08/21/2013 01:06 PM

@nuhurtz, I made the wrong call on the no socket weapons. However, I am with you on the gems :)


Wait. Do we know for a fact that enchanting won't add sockets?

I have a character full of weapons that are just begging to have sockets added.


The main issue with stock piling items right now is that they won't be as useful at the new level cap. I also have a ton of one handers with no socket saved up. Probably just going to sell them now =/
Posted by Admin DHAdmin on 8/21/13 02:02 PM #32
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Lylirra responded to my question about Nephalem Trials, but she is waiting for the devs to share the information first. Really curious what that game mode is!
Posted by Member mentok1982 on 8/21/13 02:36 PM #33
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Posted by DHAdmin at 08/21/2013 01:37 PM

The main issue with stock piling items right now is that they won't be as useful at the new level cap. I also have a ton of one handers with no socket saved up. Probably just going to sell them now =/


That might be a good idea because some people may think that adding sockets to our current weapons will be a great idea, which means they will be willing to pay more for them now, which will drive prices up.
Posted by Member Mehsiah on 8/21/13 02:41 PM #34
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Posted by DHAdmin at 08/21/2013 01:35 PM

Posted by moloch154 at 08/21/2013 01:32 PM

@Lylirra has stated that your Paragon 'points' will be calculated on Paragon exp and not Paragon total levels.


Yeah, the official quote is "Your shared Paragon level will be calculated by adding up Paragon EXP across all your heroes."

That makes a lot more sense than just adding the Paragon levels together.


Brain dead with this... So If I have billions and billions of EXP, Il get more pts?
Posted by Member mentok1982 on 8/21/13 02:56 PM #35
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Posted by Mehsiah at 08/21/2013 02:41 PM

Brain dead with this... So If I have billions and billions of EXP, Il get more pts?


If you have billions of Paragon experience, then yes.
Posted by Admin DHAdmin on 8/21/13 02:58 PM #36
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@Mehsiah

Basically if you have a paragon 100 and a paragon 50 character when the merge happens you will not be level 150. Instead it will take the paragon experience of both characters and you will end up being something like... level 120. It all depends on how the experience curve will work with the new levels.
Posted by Member Mehsiah on 8/21/13 03:14 PM #37
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Posted by DHAdmin at 08/21/2013 02:58 PM

@Mehsiah

Basically if you have a paragon 100 and a paragon 50 character when the merge happens you will not be level 150. Instead it will take the paragon experience of both characters and you will end up being something like... level 120. It all depends on how the experience curve will work with the new levels.


Thanks! So many different reports all over the interwebs. Like I posted about earlier, might just do barbs on barbs on barbs. :)
Posted by Member Mehsiah on 8/21/13 05:12 PM #38
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Posted by DHAdmin at 08/21/2013 02:58 PM

@Mehsiah

Basically if you have a paragon 100 and a paragon 50 character when the merge happens you will not be level 150. Instead it will take the paragon experience of both characters and you will end up being something like... level 120. It all depends on how the experience curve will work with the new levels.


http://i.imgur.com/3bQOfDS.png

Someone just posted this chart on Diablofans. Makes sense now.
Posted by Member Baldy on 8/21/13 08:30 PM #39
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Posted by tsukiyomi at 08/21/2013 10:21 AM

http://i.imgur.com/NbIzgMd.jpg

Wait...are there going to be 1-handed items with that kind of DPS? That's absolutely insane.


I want to know what the 2 stars next to the item name represent...maybe that they have been "mysticized" twice?
Posted by Member Mehsiah on 8/21/13 08:56 PM #40
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Posted by Baldy at 08/21/2013 08:30 PM

Posted by tsukiyomi at 08/21/2013 10:21 AM

http://i.imgur.com/NbIzgMd.jpg

Wait...are there going to be 1-handed items with that kind of DPS? That's absolutely insane.


I want to know what the 2 stars next to the item name represent...maybe that they have been "mysticized" twice?


People are thinking that it refers to the items rarity/"gg-ness". 5 star rating poss?
Posted by Member gnawol on 8/21/13 11:32 PM #41
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Posted by DHAdmin at 08/21/2013 01:15 PM

Loot 2.0 video!

It has some really interesting stuff, common items will be used in a new crafting system.



I almost fell asleep listening to this guy :-(
Posted by Member douvinsky on 8/22/13 03:20 AM #42
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@gnawol

Are you still playing D3 or are you waiting for expansion?
Posted by Member zerokewl on 8/22/13 08:16 AM #43
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Posted by Mehsiah at 08/21/2013 05:12 PM

Posted by DHAdmin at 08/21/2013 02:58 PM

@Mehsiah

Basically if you have a paragon 100 and a paragon 50 character when the merge happens you will not be level 150. Instead it will take the paragon experience of both characters and you will end up being something like... level 120. It all depends on how the experience curve will work with the new levels.


http://i.imgur.com/3bQOfDS.png

Someone just posted this chart on Diablofans. Makes sense now.


Can someone explain this chart a bit? If one side was numbered by 1s I'd know that was the number of toons or something. Trying to estimate my HC side that has no 100s but has 2 p60ishes and a few p10-20s.

Good news is that since its based on Para xp you are winning as long as you dont run a p100 toon.
What are your plans? Max current toon(s) or grind a cursader? I think money wise you'd be WAY better off farming new gear/content asap.

Will be scary but I'll be leading the way into unknown dungeons on HC. Who's stepping up with me?


Also cannot wait to see paragon builds. so far only seen base stats page as an option. We all know the good stuff is in the 3rd page.
Posted by Member ecocd on 8/22/13 09:18 AM #44
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@zerokewl I highly doubt Blizzard has released exact conversions so that's just an example. It's designed to give you the equivalent single-hero paragon level (assuming no XP cap) if you were to combine all of your current paragon level characters. i.e., if you have 25,000,000 paragon XP on your Barb and 150,000,000 paragon XP on your Wizard, then you could combine them into a single hero with 175,000,000 XP. It's absolutely brilliant in its elegance once you learn how to use it.

To use the table, you take two of your current characters and look up their Paragon levels on the top row and left-most column. The intersection in the table is the equivalent single-hero uncapped plvl in D3C.

Let's say you have a P75 and a P30 character. Find 75 along the top row (16th column) and 30 along the left side (7th row). Follow each row and column to see they intersect in the dark mustard brown ring at 80. Your two heroes are the equivalent of a single P80 hero.

Have 3 or more heroes on your account? Let's now say you also have P50 character. You take the P80 from the previous calculation and use 80 for the top row and 50 on the left. Follow their intersection to dark purple ring for a single-hero plvl of 90. Repeating this sequentially for every character on your account until you reach your cumulative single-hero uncapped Paragon Level.

It's actually incomplete, because the rows (or columns) need to extend beyond 100, but that would probably be pretty easy to do for the original creator. I may do it myself for the hell of it. Really f***ing impressive idea.

Edit: If we make a rough guess at P100+ progression, 5x P100 characters would be a single-hero P173. 10x P100 characters would weigh in at P224.
Posted by Member ecocd on 8/22/13 09:40 AM #45
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Posted by gnawol at 08/21/2013 11:32 PM

Posted by DHAdmin at 08/21/2013 01:15 PM

Loot 2.0 video!

It has some really interesting stuff, common items will be used in a new crafting system.



I almost fell asleep listening to this guy :-(

He may not have been a dynamic speaker, but holy crap is the game Diablo 3 should have been. Loot 2.0 is both exciting and supremely depressing at the same time, because there's absolutely nothing in it that couldn't have been released as part of Diablo 3 had the original dev team realized the AH would almost entirely drive the game (idiots).

My biggest question is how many times you can mystic/enchant an item. Can you only enchant one random affix once? Can you keep enchanting that same random affix as many times as you want? Can you enchant every random affix as many times as you want? Suddenly any 6-affix rare item you pick up has the potential to be a BiS item, because you can keep enchanting a piece of ilvl 73 gear until until you get the perfect sexfecta items. Not sure I like that, actually, since the game only becomes a mat search instead of an item search.

Speaking of AH search, with the levels and targeted Legendaries now, they're going to have to dramatically redesign the AH search. It's a bit inadequate now, but it will be woefully inadequate for Loot 2.0 Legendaries. I wonder how much attention that will get.
Posted by Member tsukiyomi on 8/22/13 10:20 AM #46
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Posted by Baldy at 08/21/2013 08:30 PM

Posted by tsukiyomi at 08/21/2013 10:21 AM

http://i.imgur.com/NbIzgMd.jpg

Wait...are there going to be 1-handed items with that kind of DPS? That's absolutely insane.


I want to know what the 2 stars next to the item name represent...maybe that they have been "mysticized" twice?


It could be the number of gold attributes on it.
Posted by Member Arvernien on 8/22/13 09:43 PM #47
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While there seems to be a lot of cool stuff in this xpac - there is one thing that is terrible - the new level cap.

Blizzard killed WoW by raising the level cap with every expansion. You spend lots and lots of time (and some people spend lots of money) getting the best equipment. Then the xpac comes out and all your hard earned gear is now crap.

None of your gear will be useful at level 70.

I hate to be a downer on what seems to be an exciting xpac. The content looks great the open-ended paragon levels = awesome.

But nerfing every character just stinks.
Posted by Member Bort on 8/22/13 10:54 PM #48
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@Arvernien its deliberate. And it makes total sense in WOW. If they don't nerf all the equipment then people will only play for a couple of days. If they nerf the equipment people will be playing for months again.
Posted by Member Mehsiah on 8/23/13 07:15 AM #49
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Posted by ecocd at 08/22/2013 09:18 AM

@zerokewl I highly doubt Blizzard has released exact conversions so that's just an example. It's designed to give you the equivalent single-hero paragon level (assuming no XP cap) if you were to combine all of your current paragon level characters. i.e., if you have 25,000,000 paragon XP on your Barb and 150,000,000 paragon XP on your Wizard, then you could combine them into a single hero with 175,000,000 XP. It's absolutely brilliant in its elegance once you learn how to use it.

To use the table, you take two of your current characters and look up their Paragon levels on the top row and left-most column. The intersection in the table is the equivalent single-hero uncapped plvl in D3C.

Let's say you have a P75 and a P30 character. Find 75 along the top row (16th column) and 30 along the left side (7th row). Follow each row and column to see they intersect in the dark mustard brown ring at 80. Your two heroes are the equivalent of a single P80 hero.

Have 3 or more heroes on your account? Let's now say you also have P50 character. You take the P80 from the previous calculation and use 80 for the top row and 50 on the left. Follow their intersection to dark purple ring for a single-hero plvl of 90. Repeating this sequentially for every character on your account until you reach your cumulative single-hero uncapped Paragon Level.

It's actually incomplete, because the rows (or columns) need to extend beyond 100, but that would probably be pretty easy to do for the original creator. I may do it myself for the hell of it. Really f***ing impressive idea.

Edit: If we make a rough guess at P100+ progression, 5x P100 characters would be a single-hero P173. 10x P100 characters would weigh in at P224.


I dont see them changing how paragon exp is right now for lvls. There not gonna want people at 1000 paragon in a week, lol. Im totally fine with the current "guess" of Paragon 2.0. Did see a video of Moldran saying he was also gonna lvl up a few barbs, I think Im gonna also.
Posted by Member nuhertz on 8/23/13 09:11 AM #50
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@Mehsiah

Based off of how experience currently works, you can expect someone with 10 Paragon level 100 characters to be at roughly paragon 200.

Paragon Extrapolated

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