1.0.7 Strategies

Posted by Member Khan on 1/12/13 09:56 AM #26
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@zerokewl and @ecocd I'm holding onto them for now. I'm hoping for higher prices than the 6, 7, or 8k I can get for each right now. While more than a modest return on investment, I want more. I want to see if the RMAH will have movement on these once the PTR hits or afterwards.

@briangp Those are my zerg queen wings for pre-ordering Heart of the Swarm! Zerg power!
Posted by Member Khan on 1/12/13 10:11 AM #27
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Here's a strategy that just came to mind: Thorns (physical damage to attacker on AH items).

A curious bit is that Witch Doctors have an ability to have their pets get 100% of their thorns...

Posted by Member BAZTA on 1/12/13 10:11 AM #28
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..... but the prices for rubies will maybe go far up ...... u get with lot of ias more dps from perfect ruby as emerald and a lot more people playing with a high amount of ias: boom wiz, two onehand barbs, onehand calamity dhs ......so items with ias will also go up u see also at the moment barbs with Innas etc. The stat min-max dmg will also bring more profit in future i guess....
Posted by Member Khan on 1/12/13 10:19 AM #29
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Posted by BAZTA at 01/12/2013 10:11 AM

..... but the prices for rubies will maybe go far up ...... u get with lot of ias more dps from perfect ruby as emerald and a lot more people playing with a high amount of ias: boom wiz, two onehand barbs, onehand calamity dhs ......so items with ias will also go up u see also at the moment barbs with Innas etc. The stat min-max dmg will also bring more profit in future i guess....


Thats what I'm hoping for.
Posted by Member BAZTA on 1/12/13 10:22 AM #30
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Yes, but i sold them for fast profit. i bought them about 500 gold for each...and dont forget the risk of excessive speculation at the moment.
Posted by Member Khan on 1/12/13 10:27 AM #31
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No risk. No reward.
Posted by Member zerokewl on 1/12/13 11:04 AM #32
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Posted by Khan at 01/12/2013 10:27 AM

No risk. No reward.


You already risked it, and the reward is awaiting you. Hit it now man. At least some of them.
Posted by Member ecocd on 1/12/13 11:21 AM #33
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Posted by zerokewl at 01/12/2013 11:04 AM

Posted by Khan at 01/12/2013 10:27 AM

No risk. No reward.


You already risked it, and the reward is awaiting you. Hit it now man. At least some of them.
More risk more reward.
Posted by Member Mehsiah on 1/12/13 11:30 AM #34
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Posted by Khan at 01/11/2013 10:40 PM

Nice. Hopefully brims will be part of the recipe...

Got my rubies!

Edit: In case anyone thought I was bluffing...


http://i.imgur.com/yyQuW.jpg


Wish I was on when the notes got published, missed out big time. :(
Posted by Member ninjax on 1/12/13 12:00 PM #35
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What do you guys think of 2H weapons? I'm not a massive barb player so haven't paid much attention to them but they can roll pretty insane main stat and crit damage, with a socket and a ruby seems like they really could start playing a part.
Posted by Member ecocd on 1/12/13 12:09 PM #36
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Posted by ninjax at 01/12/2013 12:00 PM

What do you guys think of 2H weapons? I'm not a massive barb player so haven't paid much attention to them but they can roll pretty insane main stat and crit damage, with a socket and a ruby seems like they really could start playing a part.
Well, the problem is that one of the biggest selling points of 2-handed weapons, theoretically, is their ability to go up to 300% CD. By using the socket for IAS, instead, you'd be going from 275-300% CD on a very, very slow weapon to 175%-200% CD on a very slow weapon. Like everything 2H, socketed Skorns will see use, if anything.

That's the thing with trying to play the weapons market for Rubies. A number of the BiS weapons already have CD built in. Calamity and Manticore both have CD so getting a socket (or two) in those weapons was already valuable. Even Slorak's Madness for Wizards has Crit damage inherent. I don't think there's going to be a huge impact on the weapons market due to the Ruby change. And once people have had a chance to play with the patch, most people are going to be going back to Emeralds, anyway.
Posted by Member BAZTA on 1/12/13 12:39 PM #37
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the rubies does not increase ur attack speed the min-max dmg get buffed .........
Posted by Member ecocd on 1/12/13 01:16 PM #38
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Posted by BAZTA at 01/12/2013 12:39 PM

the rubies does not increase ur attack speed the min-max dmg get buffed .........
Sorry for the confusion @BAZTA. The 1.0.7 patch notes preview came out yesterday. In it, Blizzard said that Rubies will increase attack speed when socketed in weapons. That's why Rubies have increased in value so much overnight.
Posted by Member BAZTA on 1/12/13 01:55 PM #39
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could u plz post ore quote the source ? cant find that section....
Posted by Member Khan on 1/12/13 02:02 PM #40
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Posted by BAZTA at 01/12/2013 01:55 PM

could u plz post ore quote the source ? cant find that section....


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/8414560/Patch_107_Preview-1_11_2013

"We also took the opportunity to modify the Ruby effect in weapons. At the moment, the Critical Hit damage bonus provided by the Emerald is a clear choice for anybody looking to do more damage with their weapon. The new tier Ruby is a significant bump up that should make it the preferred choice for those who favor attack speed over Critical Hit chance, or for those who use skills which do not benefit as much from Critical Hit such as Sentry and Hydra."

Also on the first page of this site.
Posted by Member Aaagogo on 1/12/13 03:13 PM #41
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"We also took the opportunity to modify the Ruby effect in weapons. At the moment, the Critical Hit damage bonus provided by the Emerald is a clear choice for anybody looking to do more damage with their weapon. The new tier Ruby is a significant bump up that should make it the preferred choice for those who favor attack speed over Critical Hit chance, or for those who use skills which do not benefit as much from Critical Hit such as Sentry and Hydra."

Since a Ruby doesn't add neither Attack Speed nor Critical Hit Chance, it falls back to the default meaning which is Damage. It is however ridiculously sloppy English, but this isn't something new

The prices of Flawless Square Amethyst will increase, anyone that does PvP would want to have +18% life in the Helm instead of +exp or +mf or +gf
Posted by Member RaRuMs on 1/12/13 03:22 PM #42
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What about Tomes of Secret? Their price hasn't raised much after the patch notes (around +300g/unit in EU). In my opinion the price should rise even more for all that crafting that will be going on soon with all the new plans and stuff.

Or not, that's the funny side :D
Posted by Member nuhertz on 1/12/13 03:24 PM #43
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US tomes have doubled, if EU hasn't, I would load up now.
Posted by Member ecocd on 1/12/13 04:01 PM #44
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@Aaagogo Thanks for the clarification. How can they apparently spend soooooo much time on getting these previews together and yet make them soooo unclear. If it's only the Marquise that's improving and not the lower levels, Blizzards has really eff'd up. I can't believe that's what they mean, though. It's going to cost well over 100 million Gold for 1 Marquise Ruby and everyone will need two of them. So Rubies would be worthless (as weapon mods) until they cost over 100 million Gold a piece? I think it's more likely they'll starting bumping the bonuses up around Radiant Square when people are hitting Inferno and scale up from there to Marquise.

Not only that, they'll have to put a level requirement on the gems now, because having a +100 min damage Gem on a clvl 15 weapon is completely unbalancing.

But wow. How much mix/max damage is it going to take to replace +100% CD? Even throwing up Sentries, I keep firing and laying down Spike Traps where 20% CC makes 100% CD equal a 20% boost in terms of weapon damage. That's pretty insane min/max damage advantage.

Anyway, thanks again Aaagogo.
Posted by Member RaRuMs on 1/12/13 04:10 PM #45
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Posted by nuhertz at 01/12/2013 03:24 PM

US tomes have doubled, if EU hasn't, I would load up now.


35M on tomes, 24500 tomes.

*crosses fingers*
Posted by Member Khan on 1/12/13 04:13 PM #46
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I think its any ruby class because they state: "Ruby effect in weapons".

Posted by Member BAZTA on 1/13/13 02:34 AM #47
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ah im happy with a min-max dmg increase much better as ias for me .....thats how i understand the preview too
Posted by Member gnawol on 1/13/13 05:43 AM #48
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--offtopic--

@Khan Is your Avatar from leonidas?


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bGbOSl1F1dA/S9zwqPw8wMI/AAAAAAAABHk/pKypo3F0dvA/s400/leonidas_thermopyles.jpg
Posted by Member nuhertz on 1/13/13 07:22 AM #49
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Posted by RaRuMs at 01/12/2013 04:10 PM



35M on tomes, 24500 tomes.

*crosses fingers*


I wish you the best of luck. I think tomes are the trailing indicator of people actually using gems. Gems right now are speculation, but with tomes you're betting on people actually crafting. That said, if there's a 100-200% spike before the patch, I would dump them. All gems and tomes will likely dip just as everyone comes back and starts selling mats for easy money. That's when I'm going to stock up.
Posted by Member RaRuMs on 1/13/13 07:29 AM #50
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Posted by nuhertz at 01/13/2013 07:22 AM

Posted by RaRuMs at 01/12/2013 04:10 PM



35M on tomes, 24500 tomes.

*crosses fingers*


I wish you the best of luck. I think tomes are the trailing indicator of people actually using gems. Gems right now are speculation, but with tomes you're betting on people actually crafting. That said, if there's a 100-200% spike before the patch, I would dump them. All gems and tomes will likely dip just as everyone comes back and starts selling mats for easy money. That's when I'm going to stock up.


Yep. The focus now is on the gems, because it's on the flashy side of the news. What most people forgot is that the new plans everyone will be willing to craft will probably eat some tomes of secrets. I don't think we'll see a 1 to 9 increase like with ruby (EU) but maybe a 1 to 3.5.

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