1.0.7 Strategies

Posted by Member nuhertz on 1/13/13 08:49 AM #51
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Wyatt: Sorry for the confusion. The new Ruby gives flat damage increase, much like the existing rubies do. However, because of the way the math works out, the higher your attack speed, the more your character benefits from a flat damage increase.

For example, let's say Your attack speed is 1.1 If a Ruby adds 20 damage to your weapon, then it is adding 22 DPS to your weapon. However, if your attack speed is 2.4, then that same Ruby that adds 20 damage to your weapon is going to add 48 DPS to your weapon. Essentially, flat damage benefits higher attack speeds.


To clarify for those buying rubies, they may not be as valuable as we were thinking. Wyatt Cheng posted the above on reddit.
Posted by Member RaRuMs on 1/13/13 10:07 AM #52
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LOL.This will be a hardcore ripoff.
Posted by Member Khan on 1/13/13 10:22 AM #53
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Posted by gnawol at 01/13/2013 05:43 AM

--offtopic--

@Khan Is your Avatar from leonidas?


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Yes it is!

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Posted by Member Khan on 1/13/13 10:26 AM #54
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Posted by nuhertz at 01/13/2013 08:49 AM

Wyatt: Sorry for the confusion. The new Ruby gives flat damage increase, much like the existing rubies do. However, because of the way the math works out, the higher your attack speed, the more your character benefits from a flat damage increase.

For example, let's say Your attack speed is 1.1 If a Ruby adds 20 damage to your weapon, then it is adding 22 DPS to your weapon. However, if your attack speed is 2.4, then that same Ruby that adds 20 damage to your weapon is going to add 48 DPS to your weapon. Essentially, flat damage benefits higher attack speeds.


To clarify for those buying rubies, they may not be as valuable as we were thinking. Wyatt Cheng posted the above on reddit.


This is fascinating. Can I get a link to that?

Posted by Member nuhertz on 1/13/13 10:35 AM #55
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I found it on diablo fans.

http://www.diablofans.com/topic/83259-wyatt-cheng-on-107-dueling-could-spread-to-other-acts/
Posted by Member Khan on 1/13/13 10:36 AM #56
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Nevermind. Found it here.

That type of increase still has some interesting potential for the player.

Posted by Member nuhertz on 1/13/13 10:48 AM #57
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Yes, but only for those who have fast attack speed. Expect mempo, innas temperance, Lacunis and tals chest to hold their value.
Posted by Member Khan on 1/13/13 10:53 AM #58
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Other than witch doctors, who doesn't have or want fast attack speed?
Posted by Member nuhertz on 1/13/13 10:59 AM #59
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DH has some builds that don't necessarily require it. But having the option to put attack speed in one place would reduce its value else where.

I misunderstood, and the rubies aren't nearly the optimal gem I thought they were going to be. I would speculate that the topaz weapon modifier would change, and I hope it is IAS.
Posted by Member Khan on 1/13/13 11:04 AM #60
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I've always opted to put in as much attack speed on my toons as its not too heavy a gold burden considering the return you get from it. I'd really like to see what a 3.0APS grenadier DH can do with these new rubies.
Posted by Member NightCrawler9 on 1/13/13 11:14 AM #61
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Posted by Khan at 01/13/2013 10:53 AM

Other than witch doctors, who doesn't have or want fast attack speed?


Yeah, they usually don't want any. When they get the most possible optimal gear then they start getting attack speed to improve even further.
Posted by Member Aaagogo on 1/13/13 12:12 PM #62
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I have about 100 million in between Amethyst and Fiery Brimstones... where are all the market speculators?
Posted by Member nuhertz on 1/13/13 01:53 PM #63
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I did well on emeralds last patch, but only because I bought as prices were falling, not rising. I will speculate, but I'm unloading now, getting poised for a buying frenzy when flawless squares start to plummet either right before or after the patch.
Posted by Member Mehsiah on 1/13/13 02:10 PM #64
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Im gonna wait til I can actually do the PTR before I buy anything.
Posted by Member MrFox on 1/13/13 05:42 PM #65
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Posted by nuhertz at 01/13/2013 08:49 AM

Wyatt: Sorry for the confusion. The new Ruby gives flat damage increase, much like the existing rubies do. However, because of the way the math works out, the higher your attack speed, the more your character benefits from a flat damage increase.

For example, let's say Your attack speed is 1.1 If a Ruby adds 20 damage to your weapon, then it is adding 22 DPS to your weapon. However, if your attack speed is 2.4, then that same Ruby that adds 20 damage to your weapon is going to add 48 DPS to your weapon. Essentially, flat damage benefits higher attack speeds.


To clarify for those buying rubies, they may not be as valuable as we were thinking. Wyatt Cheng posted the above on reddit.


Haha, they should have wrote it clearer next time in the patch note.

I am sticking to not doing anything for now, I got tons of good gear to sell still =\ stuck on my flips . =O
Posted by Member nuhertz on 1/13/13 07:44 PM #66
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Bummer on being stuck on the flips. Moving on the GAH or RMAH?

I try not to buy anything unless I have empty slots, so that way I can keep as little as possible wrapped up in inventory. Most of my profit comes from the RMAH, so that makes it easier as well.
Posted by Member MrFox on 1/13/13 07:56 PM #67
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Posted by nuhertz at 01/13/2013 07:44 PM

Bummer on being stuck on the flips. Moving on the GAH or RMAH?

I try not to buy anything unless I have empty slots, so that way I can keep as little as possible wrapped up in inventory. Most of my profit comes from the RMAH, so that makes it easier as well.


Both gah and rmah , : X I need to move on .... current item I am flipping on is quite expensive so it might take a while .

None of the listed in ah/rmah are going any lower than 150m . So I will not lower my price too. I believe base on my experience those item that are easy to flip are procured under 22m and can be sold for 40-50m are easier to flip . Mid tier item are easier to flip . Result are faster , I am on to a new item market now so far so looking great there : D
Posted by Member Khan on 1/13/13 08:38 PM #68
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My Nat's rings are still selling. Huh. Funny.
Posted by Member ecocd on 1/13/13 09:29 PM #69
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Thanks for the further Ruby info link! It's interesting. I don't even understand how they work right now, anyway. a 7-12 damage axe increases to 21-36 damage when a 14-28 Flawless Square Ruby is inserted and shown in-game as +14 minimum damage, +14 maximum damage. That math doesn't work and I double-checked it with a radiant Square Ruby.

It would've been 5,000% more clear to say, "we're bumping the damage increase Rubies give when socketed in weapons."

That said, I bought a fantastic 10% IAS rare 1H XBow with Dex for my DH. I've got a bid in on a different one that has Max Discipline on it, too, which would be even better. There aren't an Legendaries that can roll with IAS, Max Discipline and a Socket, so the rare market is the only place to go for those. I'm hoping to be so blown away by the new ones when the patch is released that I'm willing to drop my entire bank account on a Radiant Star Ruby.

Can players trade on the PTR (within the PTR, ofc)? I would love to be able to 'borrow' someone's PTR Radiant Star Ruby when it comes up. I figure y'all wouldn't be using it for plvl'ing on the PTR...
Posted by Member Metta on 1/14/13 01:19 AM #70
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@ecocd

The +damage stats are seriously messed up. Not only are they completely inaccurate SOMETIMES (it's actually correct sometimes, wtf), but also some items have hidden modifiers. Literally, the damage isn't listed but it's there. So a typical d3 snafu...
Posted by Member ninjax on 1/14/13 03:05 AM #71
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Posted by ecocd at 01/13/2013 09:29 PM


That said, I bought a fantastic 10% IAS rare 1H XBow with Dex for my DH. I've got a bid in on a different one that has Max Discipline on it, too, which would be even better. There aren't an Legendaries that can roll with IAS, Max Discipline and a Socket, so the rare market is the only place to go for those. I'm hoping to be so blown away by the new ones when the patch is released that I'm willing to drop my entire bank account on a Radiant Star Ruby.


Sorry for off topic.

What DPS are these? I usually straight sell all 1H as didn't think there was much of a market.
Posted by Member ninjax on 1/14/13 03:39 AM #72
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Just noticed on price tracker that radient emeralds are pushing 30M. Can't login to game atm to verify but if so time to upgrade some of those gems? 6M+ profit
Posted by Member ecocd on 1/14/13 04:45 AM #73
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Posted by ninjax at 01/14/2013 03:39 AM

Just noticed on price tracker that radient emeralds are pushing 30M. Can't login to game atm to verify but if so time to upgrade some of those gems? 6M+ profit
There is never 6M+ profit on Gems. Tomes at about 1800 Gold, Flawless Square Emeralds regularly selling for over 10k this weekend. I show, at best, a 1.2% profit right now on Radiant Star Emerald crafting which is about 360k for a 30 million Gold investment. Keep your money.

Also, don't waste your time worrying about 1H XBows. I got one of the best rares on the entire market 1100 dps, black damage, 173 dex, 10% IAS and a socket for 580k. The problem is that the only Legendary that can roll with IAS, Dex and a socket is the low dps Natalya's Slayer. If you pick up a 1H XBow with at least 1050 dps, 10% IAS and a socket, it might be worth checking the AH. The Legendary and Set 1H XBows still hand above Brimstone though so you'll want to sell those.

They're not valuable because it's a niche build that isn't viable due to Reflect Damage Elites right now. With 1.0.7, it could be a legitimate MP7+ build for DHs which is dominated right now by the Godly-geared (1400 dps, socketed 1H XBow) or the Grenade tanks who all use Calamities or Azurewarths. The market will still be very soft even after 1.0.7 drops. Barb, Monk and Wizard are just better.
Posted by Member ninjax on 1/14/13 05:49 AM #74
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Sure, if you're buying matts now I suppose :) I always have 5K or so tomes and highish level emeralds for my own weapons.

I actually found a nats with socket yesterday and high DPS (for a nats), may as well hang onto it after 1.07 as price may pick up like you say.

Cheers for the tips
Posted by Member ecocd on 1/14/13 07:00 AM #75
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Posted by ninjax at 01/14/2013 05:49 AM

I actually found a nats with socket yesterday and high DPS (for a nats), may as well hang onto it after 1.07 as price may pick up like you say.
If it rolled 11% IAS I may be interested. I'll have to take a look at my 1H Xbow mule. It's because they're cold damage that they're low dps (cold damage tops out lower than all other elemental damage). If 30% chill proves useful in PvP dueling, it would open up a ring (cold SoJ) or gloves slot (Frostburn) for the cold damage and also open another slot and still retain the Nat's set bonus.

I doubt that will actually prove important enough to drop 300 dps on a primary weapon, but you never know.

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