@tsukiyomi: Ready to go later tonight, if you're available (it's 9:15 p.m. in Taiwan right now; thinking maybe after 11 p.m.)... ;-)

Let me know if you're ready to go later on today, it was 6am my time when you posted that so I didn't see it until now.

@tsukiyomi: I assume you're on US eastern-standard time? What time do u usually play?

@woodssaxon There is a trick for the A2 warden! Don't ENGAGE him! Just stay off screen, and blast whatever you're using into the side of his bubble. You can kill him without him ever attacking you once.

I like using elemental arrow - ball lighting, as with the slow it will attack him a million times before it makes it through the bubble. Give it a try!

@eastdragon42 US Pacific time. I usually play in the evening in the 7pm-12am window my time, if you're only available really early morning my time I can usually make that if you give me at least a day of notice so I know to get up earlier.

@nuhertz Interesting idea. I tried that a few times a while ago with RF and he kept aggroing me even from offscreen, but I will give it another go with BL. Thanks!

Posted by tsukiyomi at 08/05/2013 08:01 AM

US Pacific time. I usually play in the evening in the 7pm-12am window my time, if you're only available really early morning my time I can usually make that if you give me at least a day of notice so I know to get up earlier.

If my conversion is correct, that would be 10am-3pm here in TW. I am currently taking six months of unpaid parental leave from work, so on the one hand I am on D3 a lot more often then before, but on the other hand, I sometimes have to be AFK at inconvenient times due to the baby crying. ;-) Please feel free to add me, and just send me a chat message in game if you want to try & do an uber run. Will definitely try my best to accommodate! ;-)

Posted by nuhertz at 08/04/2013 10:48 PM

@woodssaxon There is a trick for the A2 warden! Don't ENGAGE him! Just stay off screen, and blast whatever you're using into the side of his bubble. You can kill him without him ever attacking you once.

I used to be able to kill the Act 2 KW in this way, but I think they changed his AI in one of the recent patches, as he now pursues more relentlessly when hit, even if from off screen. I now try to lead him to the stairs near the Path to Dalghur Oasis waypoint & get him stuck on there; usually, it's not a problem killing him when I do that.... ;-)

I was attempting this yesterday, wanted to make a quick little video about it, and I found that you are correct. You can still do the same technique, it just involves running away a little more.

I died at the same time he did. Didn't make for great video.

Has anyone actually had any luck crafting a good hellfire ring?

I've done enough runs in the last couple weeks that I now have 11 hellfire rings, only 2 of them were even halfway decent but they're still not that great.

Anyone tried solo'ing ubers? I saw a video of a WD doing it, so thinking of giving it a try.I'm not sure how I'll survive seigebreaker constantly picking me up without a CM wiz though.

Might give it a spin MP5 and see how it plays out just for fun :)


@tsukiyomi Had a CC/CD/Average damage/Vit one roll which wasn't bad. I'm trying to roll a strength one for barby since they're free may as well!

Posted by ninjax at 08/15/2013 04:54 AM

Anyone tried solo'ing ubers? I saw a video of a WD doing it, so thinking of giving it a try.I'm not sure how I'll survive seigebreaker constantly picking me up without a CM wiz though.

Might give it a spin MP5 and see how it plays out just for fun :)

I would think it depends heavily on the class you're going to use. With a HotA Barb, I don't see how you can get through the Siegebreaker solo. Besides the massive damage from his attacks, you lose time on your Thrive on Chaos right? If you're really committed to using a Barb, throw barb and/or Seismic Slam to stay at range might work. Or maybe a complete tank build? It's a unique type of battle so you could also try out unorthodox skills like Earthquake and Call of the Ancients to check their effectiveness. Skills that suck in general play, may shine in a 2-on-1 (or 1-on-1 if you can take down Kuhle first).

You just have to remember that you can't change skills without dropping your NV stacks, but you could wipe out the others first with HotA, swap skills then rebuild your 5 stacks before attempting Ubers Siegebreaker.

A simple way to test strategies is to go up against the actual Siegebreaker at a high MP level. They're still not the same, because I think Uber Siegebreaker has a higher attack speed, but it should give you a general idea of tactics that might work.

Posted by ninjax at 08/15/2013 04:54 AM

Anyone tried solo'ing ubers? I saw a video of a WD doing it, so thinking of giving it a try.I'm not sure how I'll survive seigebreaker constantly picking me up without a CM wiz though.

Might give it a spin MP5 and see how it plays out just for fun :)


@tsukiyomi Had a CC/CD/Average damage/Vit one roll which wasn't bad. I'm trying to roll a strength one for barby since they're free may as well!

I tried it a couple of weeks ago w/ my DH to see if I could do it, also on MP5. Was successful & got two organs. :-) The Templar follower w/ Azurewrath freeze helped a bit, I think.

Tried again last week on MP8. Did not work well at all... :-( First portal, Kull & Siege Breaker. Very frustrating, died probably 30+ times. Tried changing equipment multiple times (switched EXP gem in Natalya's helm for life gem, switched to Mempo helm, tried legacy Natalya's set for fast discipline regeneration, etc...) & followers multiple times as well, didn't help. Eventually said heck w/ the 5 stacks of NV & the organ, & also began switching up different skill sets multiple times (tried grenade build, stun build w/ bola/elemental, etc...just wanted to kill Kull & Siege Breaker...), all to no avail...

Think I need better equipment before I can solo MP8+ Ubers. Unsure if I could tackle MP6 or MP7 solo...

Posted by tsukiyomi at 08/14/2013 11:41 AM

Has anyone actually had any luck crafting a good hellfire ring?

I've done enough runs in the last couple weeks that I now have 11 hellfire rings, only 2 of them were even halfway decent but they're still not that great.

The dozen or so Hellfire rings I've crafted thus far have been mediocre at best. I've only gotten the Critical Damage affix once (25%), and the Critical Hit Chance affix once (4.5%), and those weren't on the same ring... :-(

A good friend of mine here in TW was much luckier; the second ring he ever crafted (& the first ever for his WD) was a trifecta (IAS 6%, CD 43%, CC 4.5%). So annoying how some people are just so much luckier than others...

I did a bunch of solo ubers at MP5-MP6 when I had similar gear/DPS to your barb. When bumping up to MP7, I couldn't survive against Siegebreaker or Magda/SK. At that time I used WW for the entire battle, but probably can't do it now since I'm having severe rubberbanding issues (since the 1.0.8 patch). Also, it's lot easier to survive with two items with LS rather than only one but with higher DPS.

I recently upgraded some of my gear and am currently doing solo key runs at MP9 with no problem. I plan to try solo ubers on higher MPs in a week or so. I will likely use a combination of WW and HotA using two weapons with LS.

Posted by rschuyl2 at 08/16/2013 08:52 AM

I did a bunch of solo ubers at MP5-MP6 when I had similar gear/DPS to your barb. When bumping up to MP7, I couldn't survive against Siegebreaker or Magda/SK. At that time I used WW for the entire battle, but probably can't do it now since I'm having severe rubberbanding issues (since the 1.0.8 patch). Also, it's lot easier to survive with two items with LS rather than only one but with higher DPS.

I recently upgraded some of my gear and am currently doing solo key runs at MP9 with no problem. I plan to try solo ubers on higher MPs in a week or so. I will likely use a combination of WW and HotA using two weapons with LS.

With the Rapid Fire DH build, I can do solo MP9~10 w/o problems too, which was why I thought maybe I could handle solo Ubers on MP8.... but alas, that was not the case.... :-( Then again, Barbarians survive much better than DHs, so...

I think you're correct that you can survive better & longer with two LS items vs one LS item with higher DPS... however, you can't take too much of a hit in DPS, or else enrage timers will kick in, at which point you'll probably get one-shot by one of the Ubers anyways...

I was planning to use my WD for first try and then WW/Hota. I have a 6% ls skorn with lowish DPS to swap in / out.

Should be fun, going to try this weekend!

I have done mp10 ubers with my CM, Barb, Monk and DH. DH was the hardest (died a few times on Siege/Kulle and King/Mahgda), but other than that is not that bad. With the barb, just about any build works. I have only used CM/SNS for my wizard and that is just silly easy. With my Monk it was the King/Mahgda that gave me some trouble. For the DH, I just used my Rapid Fire build and had no margin for error, but it is not that bad.

As for WD, that is next on my list once this Monk is leveled.

I've got all 5 characters decently geared, if anybody needs a hand add/invite me. Might not be all mp10 ready, but I'd say at least mp7.

Posted by eastdragon42 at 08/16/2013 09:25 AM

Posted by rschuyl2 at 08/16/2013 08:52 AM

I did a bunch of solo ubers at MP5-MP6 when I had similar gear/DPS to your barb. When bumping up to MP7, I couldn't survive against Siegebreaker or Magda/SK. At that time I used WW for the entire battle, but probably can't do it now since I'm having severe rubberbanding issues (since the 1.0.8 patch). Also, it's lot easier to survive with two items with LS rather than only one but with higher DPS.

I recently upgraded some of my gear and am currently doing solo key runs at MP9 with no problem. I plan to try solo ubers on higher MPs in a week or so. I will likely use a combination of WW and HotA using two weapons with LS.

With the Rapid Fire DH build, I can do solo MP9~10 w/o problems too, which was why I thought maybe I could handle solo Ubers on MP8.... but alas, that was not the case.... :-( Then again, Barbarians survive much better than DHs, so...

I think you're correct that you can survive better & longer with two LS items vs one LS item with higher DPS... however, you can't take too much of a hit in DPS, or else enrage timers will kick in, at which point you'll probably get one-shot by one of the Ubers anyways...

Yeah, the reason I was being killed when I moved to MP7 back then was from enraged Zoltan Kuhle. Now I have 70K more DPS with two LS items than I did back then, so I'm hoping to be able to do at least MP8.

Posted by ninjax at 08/15/2013 04:54 AM

Anyone tried solo'ing ubers? I saw a video of a WD doing it, so thinking of giving it a try.I'm not sure how I'll survive seigebreaker constantly picking me up without a CM wiz though.

Might give it a spin MP5 and see how it plays out just for fun :)


@tsukiyomi Had a CC/CD/Average damage/Vit one roll which wasn't bad. I'm trying to roll a strength one for barby since they're free may as well!

I did it on my monk. Can't remember the MP. Something like 5 or so. Magda+King fight was easy enough. (Died once), Ghom fight was very easy. (Died once). Kulle fight was an absolute nightmare. Took me about an hour to finish, with plenty restarts. I even had to go hunt down another elite pack to reset my NV stack.


(I think I actually posted it here somewhere, will see if I can find that thread)

edit: Apparently my original thread didn't have much discussion. ;)
https://www.diablohub.com/forums/thread/1581/#1

@rschuyl2: So how'd it go? Any better the second time around? :-)

@Bort: When your original thread came out, I don't think I'd even faced Ubers yet... ;-)

Posted by eastdragon42 at 08/18/2013 09:59 AM

@rschuyl2: So how'd it go? Any better the second time around? :-)

@Bort: When your original thread came out, I don't think I'd even faced Ubers yet... ;-)

I was away for the weekend, so didn't play. I still have a few key runs to do tonight. WIll likely do ubers tomorrow or Wednesday night.

Posted by ninjax at 08/16/2013 09:56 AM

I was planning to use my WD for first try and then WW/Hota. I have a 6% ls skorn with lowish DPS to swap in / out.

Should be fun, going to try this weekend!

OK so I thought I'd try it with my WD COB build and test the waters MP7.

First up was Ghom, no issue there. Did get a little low HP at one point but mostly cause I was in the wrong position. Quick Spirit Walk and they were down in no-time.

2nd was Magda & SK. HP got low a few times, but again spirit walk and position being the problem. Generally if I'm in wrong position and not leeching I'll be in trouble.

Last was Seige and as expect they were much harder. I used scoundral with Buriza and while he helped freeze quite a bit seigebreaker often picked me up, then combo of the roof falling in or whirlwinds would finish me off. I died probably 5 times before my PC crashed when I was doing well. In 3 of those runs I took out Kule but didn't manage to get seige by slim margins. It's good being able to hex Kule and hopefully take him out after 2 or 3 hex's in between getting eaten. Oh well. I'm pretty sure I would have taken them in another run or two.

Realised afterwards that I probably should have switched Gruesome Feast off and switched over to Jungle Fortitude for damage reduction but that last fight was much harder than I expected. I was also worried about mana, so I had Haunt with the mana run, in retrospect I think I should use horrify with the armour rune.

I was thinking I would breeze through all of these fights on MP7 with my huge EHP .. but nope. I even switched to vit gems in my chest for 80k HP! I know Plauge Bears is probably much better build for this but COB is what I run on this go so wanted to go with that.

I'm going to try it again with the changes I mentioned and see how we go.

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Next I'm doing to try my HoTA barb straight up to MP10, I still see the seige fight as being my hardest. I might yell out for help if I'm completely stuck so I don't waste a machine lol

Posted by eastdragon42 at 08/18/2013 09:59 AM

@rschuyl2: So how'd it go? Any better the second time around? :-)

@Bort: When your original thread came out, I don't think I'd even faced Ubers yet... ;-)

Had time to do one Uber run last night at MP7. First portal was Seige/Kule.

I first tried with only one LS item - LS 2.9 and unbuffed DPS of 204341. I used HotA/WW build. WW did more damage, but caused deaths due to rubberbanding. With HotA only, LS could not keep up with the damage. I died 10 times before giving up. All deaths happened before enrage.

I then switched to two LS items. I swapped out my Witching Hour for an IK belt. I ended up with LS 5.9 and unbuffed DPS of 181243. Using HotA only, I was able to complete each Uber pair in around 2 minutes with no deaths. I never even felt at risk of death.

I plan to try MP8 and MP9 tonight. I may also try adding a third LS item if needed, but I think it may reduce my DPS too much.

Reading all this makes me want to try again.
I didn't make any notes of my stats at the time I originally did it, but I'm certain I'm much better geared now.

Posted by rschuyl2 at 08/21/2013 06:37 AM

Posted by eastdragon42 at 08/18/2013 09:59 AM

@rschuyl2: So how'd it go? Any better the second time around? :-)

@Bort: When your original thread came out, I don't think I'd even faced Ubers yet... ;-)

Had time to do one Uber run last night at MP7. First portal was Seige/Kule.

I first tried with only one LS item - LS 2.9 and unbuffed DPS of 204341. I used HotA/WW build. WW did more damage, but caused deaths due to rubberbanding. With HotA only, LS could not keep up with the damage. I died 10 times before giving up. All deaths happened before enrage.

I then switched to two LS items. I swapped out my Witching Hour for an IK belt. I ended up with LS 5.9 and unbuffed DPS of 181243. Using HotA only, I was able to complete each Uber pair in around 2 minutes with no deaths. I never even felt at risk of death.

I plan to try MP8 and MP9 tonight. I may also try adding a third LS item if needed, but I think it may reduce my DPS too much.

Just cleared MP8 Ubers on first try with no close calls with the same items/build. Didn't need to try with a third LS item. Now on to MP9!